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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 14, 2011 11:50:46 GMT -8
As the piccies on my desktop were cycling, I happened to clear the screen just in time to see Artie in the British disguise from Sedgewick Curse. And I was thinking how the body language of jutting his chin forward really 'made' that disguise. Next pic flips up and it's the same character having the massage. And suddenly it struck me -- wasn't Artie supposed to have this huge tattoo on his arm???
(No, my piccies aren't exclusively That Handsome Man. There's also the Doctor in various regenerations, artwork my kids have done, beautiful land- and sea-scape photos, lots of astronomy pics, lots and lots of LOLcats...)
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Post by California gal on Sept 14, 2011 12:09:08 GMT -8
That tattoo never reappeared. I believe the scene in Sedgewick Curse is the only one where Artie appears shirtless (I know Angels will correct me if I'm wrong!) after Turncoat. I don't know if anyone has even referred to it in fan fiction!
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 14, 2011 12:14:51 GMT -8
I did think about referring to it for one of the fan fics I'm writing, but wound up I didn't. And now it occurs to me -- one would only mention it if the tattoo was there, I think? Or at least in the scene I was writing, the other character who sees him shirtless (not being Jim) wouldn't know the tattoo was supposed to be there to comment on its absence.
Or I could be, as usual, overthinking this.
Back to typing!
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Post by Apple on Sept 14, 2011 12:38:55 GMT -8
Hmmmm...
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 14, 2011 12:44:27 GMT -8
*snerk* And the pics of Artie admiring the tattoo in the mirror just came up!
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Post by conansf on Sept 14, 2011 22:53:04 GMT -8
To stay in character: I think Artie would have made up some super-covering stage make-up that would be a forerunner of "Dermablend": which some people use to cover scars and port wine marks. For his disguises it would not do to have very recognisable tat for the bad guys to notice.
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Post by Apple on Sept 15, 2011 5:37:44 GMT -8
I agree with that, conansf...my husband says the same thing, which is why he never got a tattoo during his time in the military. He doesn't want to be identified
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 18, 2011 16:41:05 GMT -8
Something else I just noticed while the piccies were cycling:
In Glowing Corpse, when Artie is disguised as the Irish freightman (one of my favorite disguises) -- did anyone else ever notice that the man is wearing both a belt and suspenders? Not sure why.
Me, I got a kick out of it.
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Post by California gal on Sept 18, 2011 17:49:18 GMT -8
You know, some people who have to do heavy lifting these days wear a very wide belt--back supporting I presume. Maybe that was the case in olden time too.
Or maybe he thought better safe than sorry. ;D
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 19, 2011 7:18:07 GMT -8
You know, that's a good thought. Although the belt didn't look that wide to me.
I think it was Ross playing a little joke, to see if people would notice the redundancy.
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 21, 2011 11:59:54 GMT -8
Regarding Fugitives -- anyone notice Artie as Hallelujah Harry, with his disappearing and reappearing black vest? I'm assuming that's a function of the filming being interrupted by Robert Conrad's horrendous fall and the shoot being spread over two seasons, so that it wasn't caught that they had altered Artie's costume. (As many costumes as Ross Martin went through, is it any surprise no one noticed?)
Also, when Artie as Hallelujah Harry drives his wagon into the middle of the gunfight, he's *saying* 'Giddyup!' but he's actually pulling the reins back till James can get on. Heh!
Oh, and btw -- I tend to refer to Norbert Plank as 'the rabbit.'
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Post by California gal on Sept 21, 2011 12:06:41 GMT -8
We have noticed that they were not particularly scrupulous about continuity in those days--probably because they never imagined that people would see episodes more than once--twice at the most in reruns--and definitely not be able to watch them over and over, in slow-motion, freeze-frame, etc.!
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 21, 2011 12:25:39 GMT -8
And then there were shows -- early Doctor Who comes to mind -- that they thought so little of, they wiped them and reused the film. urk.
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Post by Silver on Sept 21, 2011 13:07:11 GMT -8
I just remembered one I wanted to bring up. In TNoT Bubbling Death, Jim has a pulley/wheel thingie up his sleeve that he uses to cross the acid tank. Later, as he and Artie are escaping, out pops his sleeve gun to set off the explosive Artie planted on the gate when they were on their way in. I double-checked and both times it's his right sleeve.
I'm starting to think Artie put some magic in that sleeve device. That would explain the claws in Bleak Island.
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Post by California gal on Sept 21, 2011 13:20:48 GMT -8
Which season 1 episode was it that Artie was working on something and he told Jim he thought he could make it small enough to fit in a cufflink or something like that? Obviously, that's what he does with all Jim's gadgets. They balloon out into proper size when needed. ;D
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Post by Apple on Sept 21, 2011 13:30:59 GMT -8
Regarding Fugitives Oh, and btw -- I tend to refer to Norbert Plank as 'the rabbit.' LOL! I've always thought he looked like the characters in this Christmas Cartoon: www.youtube.com/watch?v=a46lTHxc1bo
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 22, 2011 9:12:23 GMT -8
Which season 1 episode was it that Artie was working on something and he told Jim he thought he could make it small enough to fit in a cufflink or something like that? Obviously, that's what he does with all Jim's gadgets. They balloon out into proper size when needed. ;D Beginning of Act 1 of The Torture Chamber, just before the guys get the telegraphic message to go help Governor Bradford.
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Post by Apple on Sept 22, 2011 18:41:49 GMT -8
Ah yep Apple, you hit it on the head. I was thinking the same thing but couldn't place the cartoon. ;D Uncanny resemblance, isn't it? LOL! ;D
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 23, 2011 6:07:21 GMT -8
Which season 1 episode was it that Artie was working on something and he told Jim he thought he could make it small enough to fit in a cufflink or something like that? Obviously, that's what he does with all Jim's gadgets. They balloon out into proper size when needed. ;D Beginning of Act 1 of The Torture Chamber, just before the guys get the telegraphic message to go help Governor Bradford. Btw, small enough to fit in a cufflink reminds me of the tv series Search (pilot episode was named Probe). Does anyone else remember that? It had three rotating leads: Hugh O'Brien, Tony Franciosa, and Doug McClure. But what thrilled me was the head of the techie group was played by -- yes! -- Burgess Meredith! One of the techie things on Search was a camera that could be placed on a cufflink, so yeah.
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 23, 2011 6:31:46 GMT -8
I just remembered one I wanted to bring up. In TNoT Bubbling Death, Jim has a pulley/wheel thingie up his sleeve that he uses to cross the acid tank. Later, as he and Artie are escaping, out pops his sleeve gun to set off the explosive Artie planted on the gate when they were on their way in. I double-checked and both times it's his right sleeve. I'm starting to think Artie put some magic in that sleeve device. That would explain the claws in Bleak Island. Hey! Maybe Artie found the little chickie with the Philosopher's Stone inside and put it to very good uses making his gadgets...
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 23, 2011 6:41:30 GMT -8
Ok, Flaming Ghost -- Artie helping the lovely lady with the wounded arm by doing up the back of her dress. I did what my son calls a flipbook of that -- 251 images. If I could figure out how to make a small clip of the scene, I would, but haven't worked out how to do that yet...
Anyway, while looking through the pics, I noted how very hard Artie was working getting her buttons fastened. Twice he stuck his tongue out, and his shoulders were really showing just how hard he was working.
And then that lovely look that passes between the two of them as he wraps the sling around her, just before she turns her back to him again...
And then she turns and leaves the scene -- and the back of her dress! The way it's constructed, it looks like it has a zipper (anachronism) and no buttons at all! If that dress really did not have buttons, then chalk up another great acting job for Ross Martin, 'cause he sure had me believing there were buttons!
Of course, that dressmaker lady had exquisite taste; in the tag, she says good-bye to Jim, then turns, looks at Artie, and says, 'Mr Gordon' in such a voice! The way she and Ross look at each other and speak to each other, they certainly make it seem like Artie and the dressmaker had. shall we say, a few off-camera scenes together...
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Post by California gal on Sept 23, 2011 7:05:53 GMT -8
Niecie, I presume you have perused the "Frivolous" thread where I've posted thousands of pictures (or so it seems) of both guys from all the episodes. I'm in the process of re-capping and posting some that I didn't do a good job on previously, but real life has interfered the last couple of months. Anyway, here's a couple from the scene you refer to. (Hard to believe that "Barbara" is also the brash "Rose" from Ready-Made Corpse, where she has no taste at all, dumping BOTH guys in favor of her "real lawman.") I don't have any of Artie sticking out his tongue, or of the back of her dress.
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Post by Silver on Sept 23, 2011 7:34:11 GMT -8
Beginning of Act 1 of The Torture Chamber, just before the guys get the telegraphic message to go help Governor Bradford. Btw, small enough to fit in a cufflink reminds me of the tv series Search (pilot episode was named Probe). Does anyone else remember that? It had three rotating leads: Hugh O'Brien, Tony Franciosa, and Doug McClure. But what thrilled me was the head of the techie group was played by -- yes! -- Burgess Meredith! One of the techie things on Search was a camera that could be placed on a cufflink, so yeah. Oh! I think I remember that. The tech division was in some sort of cave, right? If this is the same show I'm thinking about, I madly adored Burgess Meredith's character! From time to time I've thought of that show, but couldn't for the life of me remember what it was called. I'm pretty sure Search was it.
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 23, 2011 7:43:07 GMT -8
Thinking Burgess Meredith's character was called Cam? Short for Cameron?
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 23, 2011 7:45:57 GMT -8
Niecie, I presume you have perused the "Frivolous" thread where I've posted thousands of pictures (or so it seems) of both guys from all the episodes. I'm in the process of re-capping and posting some that I didn't do a good job on previously, but real life has interfered the last couple of months. Anyway, here's a couple from the scene you refer to. (Hard to believe that "Barbara" is also the brash "Rose" from Ready-Made Corpse, where she has no taste at all, dumping BOTH guys in favor of her "real lawman.") I don't have any of Artie sticking out his tongue, or of the back of her dress. Oh yes, in fact I'm perusing it right now, looking for a shot from Running Death. Love all those wonderful pics, Cal Gal! You're too good to us.
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Post by Silver on Sept 23, 2011 8:13:43 GMT -8
I, too, always liked Barbara for her excellent taste in men. They must have a had a few romantic scenes off-screen. I think Jim shows just a touch of jealousy during that scene and the tag, because she does not hide her much greater interest in Artie.
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Post by California gal on Sept 23, 2011 8:16:30 GMT -8
Of course I have a lot more pix than what I can possibly post. If you don't see the exact scene you want, ask and I'll see if I do have it. Or can get it.
And if you ever want the original jpegs, just ask. You can send me your email address via the board messaging service.
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 24, 2011 5:30:19 GMT -8
Oh, yeah, one more thing about Flaming Ghost. At the end when the cavalry shows up, there's Artie in a cavalry uniform. So now I'm wondering -- does that count as a disguise, or is Artie really entitled to wear a cavalry uniform? I know in Pistoleros he had a military rank (Captain was it?). And I know he does wear military uniforms as disguises more than once (again, one of those is in Pistoleros). I just find it hard to believe he would go fetch the cavalry, then ride back with them in uniform if he wasn't actually entitled to wear the uniform.
Overthinking as usual...
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Post by California gal on Sept 24, 2011 6:33:44 GMT -8
The reason Artie is in a cavalry uniform is because they used stock footage from some other TV show or movie to show us the cavalry arriving, with some dork waving his sword as they rode across the desert. They couldn't find any film snips with a drunk Irish whiskey salesman accompanying the cavalry. I think we're supposed to believe he wanted to get out of his drunk Irish whiskey salesman disguise and the army loaned him some clothes.
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 24, 2011 6:41:56 GMT -8
Oh, that's what I get for eating while reading!
Thanks, CalGal!
*putting food aside before I fall off chair -- klunk!*
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