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Post by Apple on Sept 7, 2011 5:20:53 GMT -8
No, I'm not all that good, and I'm glad that Pet finally admits that! Sheesh.
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Silver
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Post by Silver on Sept 7, 2011 5:41:08 GMT -8
I only point out that no one was silly enough for a moment to consider me good! I revel in the evil I do, especially to our wonderful boys!
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 7, 2011 9:00:18 GMT -8
In watching my way through Season 1 (about halfway through), I keep noticing something hanging from the left side of Artie's white vest, generally when he's on the train. In Red-eyed Manmen, when Artie is working on the clay model gun, you can get a fairly good look at the thing. It looks like a round item attached to a short black ribbon, so I'm assuming it's a watch. Anyone know more about it?
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Silver
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Post by Silver on Sept 7, 2011 9:04:30 GMT -8
Hmm, I'll have to go look. Probably what is known as a 'watch fob' - a small decorative item hanging off of the chain a pocket watch is kept on.
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 7, 2011 9:32:15 GMT -8
I don't notice an actual chain. In one of the early Season 1 episodes -- don't recall which -- you can see him attaching it to his vest. Btw, when I said left side of the vest, I meant Artie's left.
In the fanfic I'm currently working on, someone mentions a pocket watch, and I thought Artie would have the typical pocket watch. However, if that's his watch, his is nontypical so I should rewrite.
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Post by California gal on Sept 7, 2011 13:16:26 GMT -8
As I recall, Artie holds his pocket watch in the beginning of TNOT Falcon. And it must be a new one, because one got shattered in TNOT Hangman.
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Post by mrcrf on Sept 7, 2011 17:00:05 GMT -8
The Night of the Murderous Spring: In the barn, before they attack Doctor Loveless, Jim hands Artie a pellet; Artie puts it in his pocket. It isn’t brought up again, is it? (Was there a tag filmed, but not used?)
The Night of the Lord of Limbo: Jim’s concentration during the fencing. His face shows (wonderfully) that he’s up against a formidable opponent. Given Artie’s tendency (esp. in season 1) to fall down after a little knock on the head or elbow or toe, it’s nice to see him giving Jim a run for his money.
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Post by California gal on Sept 7, 2011 17:07:28 GMT -8
I always wonder about that pellet. Wonder if in the original script they were going to bring it up again. Love that fencing scene in Limbo. What I get out of Jim's expression is that he knows he's fighting his best friend--but his best friend doesn't know it. He doesn't want to hurt Artie, but Artie has every intention of hurting him. I like to imagine that as Jim tutored Artie in some physical fighting skills, Artie probably taught him some fencing in their idle hours.
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Apple
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Post by Apple on Sept 7, 2011 18:53:33 GMT -8
A pellet? I will have to pay more attention the next time!
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Post by California gal on Sept 7, 2011 18:56:52 GMT -8
A pellet? I will have to pay more attention the next time! Jim finds it on the table or whatever it is they hide behind and hands it to Artie, who puts it in his pocket.
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Post by Apple on Sept 8, 2011 5:44:41 GMT -8
Oh that. That is one of the pellets that Dr. Loveless is distributing through the ducks...they take it for evidence.
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 8, 2011 8:43:26 GMT -8
One of the things I noticed about the fencing in Lord of Limbo is that the only time either of them touches the other is when 'Jack' slashes Jim's vest while goading him to fight -- once both are armed, neither can lay a blade on the other.
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Silver
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Post by Silver on Sept 8, 2011 8:52:16 GMT -8
I shouldn't say this, since it's going to be a while before the story is finished, but at the beginning of TNoT Broken Men Jim and Artie are practicing fencing and I call it one of the rare areas of physical combat where Artie can hold his own against Jim. I mention my theory that he probably choreographed sword fights in the theatre before the war.
Remember his wonderful sword work against the baddies in Big Blast?
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Post by MissRedhead on Sept 8, 2011 11:25:00 GMT -8
*swoon*
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Silver
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Post by Silver on Sept 8, 2011 11:33:21 GMT -8
*swoon* Especially considering how well he wore that pirate costume! *THUD*
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 8, 2011 12:32:25 GMT -8
I don't notice an actual chain. In one of the early Season 1 episodes -- don't recall which -- you can see him attaching it to his vest. Btw, when I said left side of the vest, I meant Artie's left. In the fanfic I'm currently working on, someone mentions a pocket watch, and I thought Artie would have the typical pocket watch. However, if that's his watch, his is nontypical so I should rewrite. Been trying to find that scene and haven't yet. However, now that I'm looking and really paying attention, it looks like a ribbon, maybe four inches long, hanging from a thread or something thin like that, and the thread disappears into his vest pocket. You can see it very clearly in the beginning of Casual Killer while he is playing the violin. He turns while still playing, just before he finishes; you can get a good look right then. My guess is what I'm seeing is a short fob with a small medallion on the ribbon, with the watch in the pocket. As I'm still working my way through Season 1, I have no idea if he changes to a different style pocket watch later on. Yes, I tend to focus on details a lot. One of the reasons I had to give up watching tv about 20 years ago -- I would tend to overanalyze after watching a show, picking up on plot holes, etc. I can still catch the first few minutes of a lot of the murder dramas and have the plot pretty much figured out -- so what's the point of watching it?
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 8, 2011 12:34:16 GMT -8
*swoon* Especially considering how well he wore that pirate costume! *THUD* Agreeing. *le sigh*
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Silver
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Post by Silver on Sept 9, 2011 5:32:25 GMT -8
Yes, I tend to focus on details a lot. One of the reasons I had to give up watching tv about 20 years ago -- I would tend to overanalyze after watching a show, picking up on plot holes, etc. I can still catch the first few minutes of a lot of the murder dramas and have the plot pretty much figured out -- so what's the point of watching it? I agree Niecie, I do the same thing. I don't do that, but if the premise or characters or plotlines or hopefully a combination thereof don't grab me, then those other weaknesses will drive me away. I can stand plot holes and suchlike if I can find a way to overlook them, and my mind is kind of always in "what if" mode with a show I like, so even an episode I'm watching kind of has my own spin on it in the back of my mind. The birthplace of plot bunnies.
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Post by California gal on Sept 9, 2011 15:23:43 GMT -8
Plot bunnies lurk all over the place. Sometimes they have pink ribbons around their necks. Sometimes they are wearing six guns! When I watch crime/mystery shows I often have the culprit figured out early. But I continue to watch to (1) make sure I'm right, and (2) see how the heroes/detectives come to the same conclusion. Studying their methods might help me in developing one of those plot bunnies one day.
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Post by Artiespet on Sept 9, 2011 15:45:37 GMT -8
I don't do that, but if the premise or characters or plotlines or hopefully a combination thereof don't grab me, then those other weaknesses will drive me away. I can stand plot holes and suchlike if I can find a way to overlook them, and my mind is kind of always in "what if" mode with a show I like, so even an episode I'm watching kind of has my own spin on it in the back of my mind. The birthplace of plot bunnies. LOL plot bunnies, that's a good one & cute Never heard that one before. Do these plot bunnies have red eyes and fangs? ;D Really? Seriously? You've NEVER heard of plot bunnies??? OH you need some serious educating
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 10, 2011 10:36:00 GMT -8
I'll make you feel better, Ace -- I never heard of plot bunnies either.
I assume it has something to do with following a rabbit trail?
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Apple
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Post by Apple on Sept 10, 2011 11:30:31 GMT -8
ROFL!! ;DPink ribbons really scare me, I'd feel better if they wore camo ribbons and how can they be wearing 6 guns! 6 guns aren't a number of guns, but the number of bullets chambered in the gun...a six-gun...like Jim and Arte usually carry. ;D
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Post by California gal on Sept 10, 2011 12:05:01 GMT -8
Yes, I should have put a hyphen in between the two words. Six-guns. I'm afraid 6 guns would rather weigh down even a plot bunny. I'm not sure where the term originated, but I see it related to how, um, fertile rabbits are. A "plot bunny" starts out with a little idea and blossoms into a full story.
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Post by California gal on Sept 10, 2011 12:09:28 GMT -8
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Post by Paradox Eyes on Sept 10, 2011 13:04:11 GMT -8
I had never heard of plot bunnies either until I joined the Wild Wild West forums a few years ago. I thought it was made up on these forums and represented the unwritten story ideas lying dormant in our minds...like dust bunnies in an undisturbed corner. I didn't know it was a common term either.
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 10, 2011 13:40:55 GMT -8
*snerk*
Rewatching Glowing Corpse -- this time it's something Robert Conrad does!
Act 1 -- Artie makes his first ever reference to Great Aunt Maude. I'm trying to compile a comprehensive list of all the GAM refs, so I paused the DVD and was rewinding to get the exact quote. And you know what? Jim does a very slow eye-roll as Artie brings up GAM. I didn't notice till I had it on rewind/fast-forward. That just tickled me. *evil grin*
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 10, 2011 14:07:20 GMT -8
Ace, these are what I have so far:
Season 1, Episode 7: The Night of the Glowing Corpse
Artemus: Oh, yes. My Great-Aunt Maude always use to say, "Every man should have a hobby."
Season 1, Episode 10: The Night That Terror Stalked the Town
Artemus: All right, it's on me. As my great-aunt Maude always said, if you're gonna buy it at all, buy the best.
Artemus: Boy, as my Great-Aunt Maude always says, "Enthusiasm's a sure sign a man loves his work." Fake Jim: How is Aunt Maude? Artemus: She's fine, Jim, just fine. Fake Jim: Good. Give her my best. Artemus: Sure, Jim. Sure.
Jim: Artemus, when did you get here? Artemus: My Great-Aunt Maude sent me. Come on.
Season 1, Episode 13: The Night of the Torture Chamber
Artemus as Gaston Larousse: As my Grand-tante Maude always used to say: To own a priceless treasure, one must first be worthy of it.
Season 1, Episode 16: The Night of the Steel Assassin
Artie: I'm sorry, my Great Aunt Maude told me never to go off with strangers.
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Post by California gal on Sept 10, 2011 14:22:45 GMT -8
The best GAM reference, to me, is in Bogus Bandits when Artie uses it as a signal to Jim. On the other board, our quizmaster once had one of his quizzes based on Aunt Maude. I don't remember now exactly what he was looking for.
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Post by artiesniecewannabe on Sept 10, 2011 15:02:43 GMT -8
Again in Glowing Corpse, when Jim shows up at the amusement park -- I like the nun with the Madeleine girls; wondering was that in reference to the books. Also the belly dancer has something glued over her belly button -- my my, no one in the 60's had belly buttons! Not Jeannie, not Jim West -- I freaked a little while watching TNOT Raven; the Indian princess's boyfriend's belly button snuck into view. *horrors!*
Edited to add: And a couple of scenes later, when Artie's testing his artificial lung -- he doesn't get to have a belly button either!
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Post by Dieter on Sept 10, 2011 15:18:16 GMT -8
Speaking of Artie's Aunt Maude---That was mostly just a Season 1 comment Artie came up with, wasn't it?? It pretty much went away as the series continued on. Except for that part you mentioned in Bogus Bandits, I really don't recall it being said in seasons 2, 3 and 4 at all like it was in Season 1.
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